I wonder what would have happened if Randy Pitchford hadn't tried to complain about Valve controlling the Steam platform mere weeks before the release of the game. #australia
I pre-ordered on Steam and while I did have the problem with unlocking at first, I've got it working now and have already sunk several hours into it, single-player mind you.
I'm also still going to get Modern Warfare 2 for the PC.
Every day, I'm more and more glad that I'm primarily a single-player kind of guy. #australia
@infinitezero: How sneaky is adding a file EXACTLY describing what it may be doing? If 2K was truly trying to sneakily reduce violence they would've called it ASDASD123123.ncf. ;) #australia
What they need to be "working out" right now, is the bullshit 3-day delay that all non-North Americans are being subjected to. There is absolutely no reason to delay the Steam release 3 days, when they know perfectly well the game is ready to launch.
I would cancel my pre-order if I could. #australia
@animeman59: Yes they do. He's bought the game. He owns it. Gearbox are not letting him play it.
Gearbox have given it a silly arbitrary release date. Its out now today in US. But the rest of the world it just sits in Steam as pre-loaded. its just silly and pointless.
Never mind the week delay on the PC version from console anyway.
This is a clusterfuck of a launch. #australia
@RSQViper:
He has a voice, he can have all the say he wants.
He has bought the game, he has paid Gearbox but they have some silly release dates going on.
Steam is an international service, the game is preloaded for everyone currently, yet only US has been unlocked.
And they have given no reason why they have done this. #australia
@RSQViper: A reason would be nice.
And the date they set is silly. Would they kindly explain why they are releasing it via DD with stunted dates? the product is ready, it is shipped but it is locked out for a specific date in diffrent countries.
There has been no reason for this (most likely as there is none) but they have done it anyway
Why?
And why are gamers so willing to just accept the shit publishers n develoeprs fling at them these days. #australia
I have an Aussy friend, and he sure is pissed that this is delaying his playtime. Apparently, the companies have been boasting that the game would get the US release date, and now they've found a reason to veto that. #australia
@Whytookay - Pro Skub: In North America. The world isn't comprised solely of North America. The mixup today of the release date was a mixup in advertising, the game was always intended to be released this Friday in PAL territories like just about every other game in recent times. #australia
You aren't missing much. Borderlands has been a cluster fuck on the PC so far. First it wouldn't even unlock. Second Gearbox will not for the love of god use anything other than Gaymspah, so it already fails. Thrid is that Gaymspah won't reconize some user accounts so you might not even get online at all. Forth is the fact that it locks up on entering the public servers. Then you can't properly play an online game because of some stupid forwarding of the ports, meaning most private games don't work. Then if your game isn't a massive lag fest or has problems with a connection issue, you can break progression as easy as killing the wrong dude.BL needs a goddamn patch before you gents on the fence pick it up.
Other than that I love my wave shooting blue shotty.
Also, there are many commands mapped to simple keyboard keys that don't make sense for a PC game. To scroll text for missions you have to use Page Down and Page Up. Commands like add friend or invite friend are mapped to A and I instead of clickable buttons. You have got to be kidding me.
@Tiller: ...Then you can't properly play an online game because of some stupid forwarding of the ports, meaning most private games don't work. Then if your game isn't a massive lag fest or has problems with a connection issue...
I don't think a patch will help much. That sounds like every P2P system I've ever used. #australia
@Tiller: The gameplay is very fun, but as Tiller here has said, and anyone with BL in the Kotaku Steam group will agree, the game is a buggy mess.
I currently have to jack my fans up to 70% on my graphics card to keep the driver from crashing and locking up not only the game, but my entire system. A quick trip to the Gearbox forums will show that people with plenty powerful, up to date systems are experiencing the same problem, with little to no idea why. I'm one of the lucky ones where the fan fix has worked so far (knocks on wood), but many others are stuck playing for 20 minutes max before the game locks up and becomes unplayable for upwards of 30 seconds. Many times the only way for the system to recover is through a hard reset.
Right now I'm kinda disappointed. The game is definitely fun, but it really just feels like a port (especially the god-awful menu system - seriously, any kind of menu interaction in the game is straight painful), and I'm not quite seeing how the game was in any real way optimized for PC the way Pitchford made it sound like it would be.
Hopefully Gearbox used the "week" long delay to work on a patch, because the PC release is definitely in need of one.
EDIT: On the bright side, with the fans at 70% my card stayed cooler under load than when i have it idle with the fans at like 15-25%.
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@Sir-Lucius does anything for Dethklok: I may have sounded extremely negative there but it frustrated me to no end that a game delayed on PC had even more problems than the console launch.
That said I am enjoying the game immensely. Once you get out of the starting area and raid some baddies the game really picks up. We finally got a band of 4 together last night and had a blast until 5am. It's just a shame that my Soldier's equipment sucks so bad for a level 17. They kept taking all the good stuff :(
@Tiller: Oh I'm really enjoying it as well, which is part of why I'm so disappointed. The game would be absolutely phenomenal if it weren't for the lack of polish that it has. #australia
Well I'd say that currently it sucks to be EU or Australian with the stupid arbitrary digital release dates (its out in US, the game is clearly done, what gives) but today in Steam chat has pretty much just being a troubleshooting session all day.
So hopefully issues will be fixed before the EU release date.
So sounds like the PC version most definitely wasn't delayed a week to fix n tweak n polish. Wonder why it was delayed.......
Seriously though, it pisses me off. Right now, I can download and play Borderlands for the 360 if my 360 was hacked yet they delay the PC version for no reason...that's a load of BS.
@-MasterDex-: Haha, yeah, the 360 version was available on the pirate well before it was even out at reatil.
But PC users get lumped with the securom.
Which Reloaded n Razor have both shown to be complelty useless.
I swear I mentioned in the "Borderlands has SecuROM" article the other day that the pirated version would be out n playable before the street date approached.
beat it by about 12 hours.
@cyruss: Hahah, yeah. I know of many people who've acquired the torrented version. They have the game in their steam list. and it's locked up tight waiting for a silly release date yet the game is out n they want to play it. so they are. #australia
@deanbmmv: Ya know, more and more I'm feeling shafted these days as a PC gamer and while I like to support devs, I feel more and more inclined to pirate games.
Developers and publishers seriously need to wake the fuck up and smell the coffee, they are going about this in the wrong way completely.
What we need is DRM that works, some kind of self-destroying code or something and while my own programming knowledge is fundamental at best, any code monkeys looking to make huge money should be working on a solution that benefits both the consumer and the developers and publishers. #australia
@deanbmmv: one of my opinions was they delayed the pc version MAYBE so people that own consoles rave about the game and people that dont and only have a pc game will go wow looks good im going to get it for the pc or something like that. #australia
@-MasterDex-: some DRM has been effective against pirates, but not many.
I can remember one example when Race Driver 2 came out in 2004 sometime, it took them almost a year to release a cracked version of the game... i think it was the new Starforce protection at the time which was tricky, the Splinter Cell Chaos Theory game was another, it was uncracked for 422 days... its all hackable in the end though and 99% of the time its on or before release date
some other good ones were in Arma game i think, after like 10 mins playing the game if you had a cracked copy it would turn you into a bird and you'd fly across the map, it was something they didn't pick up at first when cracking it.
problem with doing things like that though is it achieves nothing, people will think the game is bugged and not buy it anyway... so who cares if somebody pirates it if they weren't going to buy it anyway (i think a lot of ppl pirate like this anyway just to try it when never intending to buy it)....
i think a better solution would be to allow people to trial the full game for free when its released but lock it to X hours or something, and if they like it they can then buy an unlock code and continue (actually the more i think about it the more i think it would just get cracked anyway)... kinda like a demo, but problem with demos is they're short. i do think they need decent demos to help promote ppl to buy the game... a price cut wouldn't hurt either tho :P *shakes fist at Activision* #australia
@ithyphallus, lazy beareaucrat: Aye. Lying through there teeth. You'd think developers just assume we're complete morons.
We knew why they delayed it, but they didn't even put on a show, like have a arbitrary patch download and update stuff (like saying adding PC controls n turning off the aimbot might of helped).
But there was nothing and the game launched broken which was an even bigger insult.
Not only do they say "oh were patching it it n stuff" they a) didn't b) it was still broken on launch.
I'm with Masterdex on this, you want to support developers but when they snub an entire platform, especially if they are developers that started out on that PC, it just looks bad on the developer and your like "why do I even fucking bother buying your games".
You can't cry out "oh but the PC platform is dying" if your holding a bloodied knife in your hand. #australia
@deanbmmv:
"Which Reloaded n Razor have both shown to be complelty useless."
This. Exactly this.
Reloaded managed to completely fuck up their release and Razor1911 released a proper but didn't actually manage to make a difference.
Either way, reloaded, razor or another group will manage to crack it.
Probably fix it, while they're at it.
It's not like the devs even bothered to have some legit-key-only multi/co-op, so there shouldn't be much more to do.
But, I'm buying the game anyway, before this comment starts a torrential downpour of prissiness.
Along with what Deanbmmv and Masterdex, i dont see the point in buying games if most devs are now forsaking their roots, screwing tons of crap up and the pirates manage to release fixed versions before the devs even get around to releasing the game to the entire market.
Uh. that got a bit longer than i'd have hoped. #australia
@Dangerwillrobinson: And as a guy who is 6' 7" I know that a normal airliner just aint gonna cut it in terms of legroom. Nope, not even first class... #kobebryant
@ibelli: I have flown with my 6' 5" father on many flights, and you do know that the legroom extends to the entire underneath portion of the seat, right? #kobebryant
Also, as a former college baller that's 6'6", I can tell you commercial flying when you're that tall is the worst. And if I'm not in the aisle seat and the person in front of me puts their seat back it quite literally smashes my knees. #kobebryant
@maraxusofk: do you even watch basketball? Do you have any idea what kind of a monster Lebron is one on one? This year is probably his last year on the Cavs if his team doesn't pick up the slack. #kobebryant
@Turkeyslam: He is damn good. 2nd in league. Until he wins anything though, he doesn't deserve the title king. I mean the Cav's were built around him. Perimeter players who are designed to be able to hit open 3's after the d collapses on Lebron driving in. Lebron isn't getting those stats all by himself. The way the Cavs play and are designed is to run the game through him and maximize his output(though that can partially be attributed to Mike Brown just being overall terrible at coaching). He just doesn't have the complete skill set or the winning pedigree that Kobe has for him to be called the king of the nba yet.
@maraxusofk: Tell that to the Nike execs, the people who buy his gear, countless "witnesses" in the media and around the world, and the season ticket holders (like me) who will be cheering on "THE KING" and his "WITNESS PROTECTION" for the 2010 LOB!
Also: Artest sucks compared to James. It's interesting (kind words) when you call James overrated when he carried The Cavs last playoff season, and outright earned season MVP from his athleticism. It weren't the Cavs versus the Magic, it were Orlando versus LeBron (and a few people that showed up to watch the game instead of playing the game.) #kobebryant
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I'm also still going to get Modern Warfare 2 for the PC.
Every day, I'm more and more glad that I'm primarily a single-player kind of guy. #australia
10/27/09
I can make people explode as Brick by punching them. So melee weapons doesn't make sense. #australia
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I would cancel my pre-order if I could. #australia
10/27/09
3 days is nothing.
I'm still waiting on Rock Band 2. #australia
10/27/09
Nobody owes you nothing. #australia
10/27/09
Gearbox have given it a silly arbitrary release date. Its out now today in US. But the rest of the world it just sits in Steam as pre-loaded. its just silly and pointless.
Never mind the week delay on the PC version from console anyway.
This is a clusterfuck of a launch. #australia
10/27/09
Sucks to wait, but seriously, what does it matter? It's not a month or something. #australia
10/27/09
He has a voice, he can have all the say he wants.
He has bought the game, he has paid Gearbox but they have some silly release dates going on.
Steam is an international service, the game is preloaded for everyone currently, yet only US has been unlocked.
And they have given no reason why they have done this. #australia
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And the date they set is silly. Would they kindly explain why they are releasing it via DD with stunted dates? the product is ready, it is shipped but it is locked out for a specific date in diffrent countries.
There has been no reason for this (most likely as there is none) but they have done it anyway
Why?
And why are gamers so willing to just accept the shit publishers n develoeprs fling at them these days. #australia
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Oh well, what would I know, I still have to go pick it up. #australia
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Other than that I love my wave shooting blue shotty.
Also, there are many commands mapped to simple keyboard keys that don't make sense for a PC game. To scroll text for missions you have to use Page Down and Page Up. Commands like add friend or invite friend are mapped to A and I instead of clickable buttons. You have got to be kidding me.
<3 #australia
10/26/09
I don't think a patch will help much. That sounds like every P2P system I've ever used. #australia
10/27/09
I currently have to jack my fans up to 70% on my graphics card to keep the driver from crashing and locking up not only the game, but my entire system. A quick trip to the Gearbox forums will show that people with plenty powerful, up to date systems are experiencing the same problem, with little to no idea why. I'm one of the lucky ones where the fan fix has worked so far (knocks on wood), but many others are stuck playing for 20 minutes max before the game locks up and becomes unplayable for upwards of 30 seconds. Many times the only way for the system to recover is through a hard reset.
Right now I'm kinda disappointed. The game is definitely fun, but it really just feels like a port (especially the god-awful menu system - seriously, any kind of menu interaction in the game is straight painful), and I'm not quite seeing how the game was in any real way optimized for PC the way Pitchford made it sound like it would be.
Hopefully Gearbox used the "week" long delay to work on a patch, because the PC release is definitely in need of one.
EDIT: On the bright side, with the fans at 70% my card stayed cooler under load than when i have it idle with the fans at like 15-25%.
10/27/09
That said I am enjoying the game immensely. Once you get out of the starting area and raid some baddies the game really picks up. We finally got a band of 4 together last night and had a blast until 5am. It's just a shame that my Soldier's equipment sucks so bad for a level 17. They kept taking all the good stuff :(
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;) #australia
10/26/09
So it's just a stray file that forgot to be deleted...
Lower your pitchfork, boys, this is controversy, but this ain't Hot Coffee controversy.
No my friends…
This is Recycle Bin Controversy!! #australia
10/26/09
So hopefully issues will be fixed before the EU release date.
So sounds like the PC version most definitely wasn't delayed a week to fix n tweak n polish. Wonder why it was delayed.......
10/26/09
Seriously though, it pisses me off. Right now, I can download and play Borderlands for the 360 if my 360 was hacked yet they delay the PC version for no reason...that's a load of BS.
10/26/09
so much for their stupid DRM they put in.... absolutely pointless other than to piss off the legit owners of the game #australia
10/26/09
But PC users get lumped with the securom.
Which Reloaded n Razor have both shown to be complelty useless.
I swear I mentioned in the "Borderlands has SecuROM" article the other day that the pirated version would be out n playable before the street date approached.
beat it by about 12 hours.
10/26/09
10/27/09
Developers and publishers seriously need to wake the fuck up and smell the coffee, they are going about this in the wrong way completely.
What we need is DRM that works, some kind of self-destroying code or something and while my own programming knowledge is fundamental at best, any code monkeys looking to make huge money should be working on a solution that benefits both the consumer and the developers and publishers. #australia
10/27/09
10/27/09
"optimization", the new delay #australia
10/27/09
I can remember one example when Race Driver 2 came out in 2004 sometime, it took them almost a year to release a cracked version of the game... i think it was the new Starforce protection at the time which was tricky, the Splinter Cell Chaos Theory game was another, it was uncracked for 422 days... its all hackable in the end though and 99% of the time its on or before release date
some other good ones were in Arma game i think, after like 10 mins playing the game if you had a cracked copy it would turn you into a bird and you'd fly across the map, it was something they didn't pick up at first when cracking it.
problem with doing things like that though is it achieves nothing, people will think the game is bugged and not buy it anyway... so who cares if somebody pirates it if they weren't going to buy it anyway (i think a lot of ppl pirate like this anyway just to try it when never intending to buy it)....
i think a better solution would be to allow people to trial the full game for free when its released but lock it to X hours or something, and if they like it they can then buy an unlock code and continue (actually the more i think about it the more i think it would just get cracked anyway)... kinda like a demo, but problem with demos is they're short. i do think they need decent demos to help promote ppl to buy the game... a price cut wouldn't hurt either tho :P *shakes fist at Activision* #australia
10/27/09
We knew why they delayed it, but they didn't even put on a show, like have a arbitrary patch download and update stuff (like saying adding PC controls n turning off the aimbot might of helped).
But there was nothing and the game launched broken which was an even bigger insult.
Not only do they say "oh were patching it it n stuff" they a) didn't b) it was still broken on launch.
I'm with Masterdex on this, you want to support developers but when they snub an entire platform, especially if they are developers that started out on that PC, it just looks bad on the developer and your like "why do I even fucking bother buying your games".
You can't cry out "oh but the PC platform is dying" if your holding a bloodied knife in your hand. #australia
10/27/09
"Which Reloaded n Razor have both shown to be complelty useless."
This. Exactly this.
Reloaded managed to completely fuck up their release and Razor1911 released a proper but didn't actually manage to make a difference.
Either way, reloaded, razor or another group will manage to crack it.
Probably fix it, while they're at it.
It's not like the devs even bothered to have some legit-key-only multi/co-op, so there shouldn't be much more to do.
But, I'm buying the game anyway, before this comment starts a torrential downpour of prissiness.
Along with what Deanbmmv and Masterdex, i dont see the point in buying games if most devs are now forsaking their roots, screwing tons of crap up and the pirates manage to release fixed versions before the devs even get around to releasing the game to the entire market.
Uh. that got a bit longer than i'd have hoped. #australia
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Besides, something tells me that dealing with airline security and flight delays would wreak havoc on NBA scheduling. #kobebryant
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are you trying to break the internet?
10/21/09
Don't make me fucking divide by zero. #kobebryant
10/21/09
Also, as a former college baller that's 6'6", I can tell you commercial flying when you're that tall is the worst. And if I'm not in the aisle seat and the person in front of me puts their seat back it quite literally smashes my knees. #kobebryant
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Oh and fuck Lebron James. Overrated. Who the hell calls himself a king when he hasn't won anything? #kobebryant
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Also: Artest sucks compared to James. It's interesting (kind words) when you call James overrated when he carried The Cavs last playoff season, and outright earned season MVP from his athleticism. It weren't the Cavs versus the Magic, it were Orlando versus LeBron (and a few people that showed up to watch the game instead of playing the game.) #kobebryant
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Too bad it lags on my computer :/ #kobebryant
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